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strategic
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 Posted - 12/09/2008 : 17:07:40
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This co has contacted me offering to sell my timeshare.(dandelion.investments@gmail.co.uk)
Not a name I recognise. Does not come up on a 'Search' by name.
Anybody heard of it or any experience of dealing with please?
(When they have an offer they will call me back etc etc !!!)
The difference here is that they have been told by me: quote 'No upfront fees! I await there response (if any) with baited breath! Cheers. TM |
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Posted - 12/09/2008 : 17:58:37
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The fact that they have a "G-Mail" address does not seem very business like and does not add too much credibility, however that in itself should not condemn them. If they 'cold called' you, then you can bet next years salary that there is a scam involved somewhere, despite their claim that no money up front is required......(Yet) !
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OldBill
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Posted - 12/09/2008 : 18:38:26
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I don't suppose that amyone will have much experience. Site dandelion-investments.com registered 14th August.
PO Box address. Does anyone seriously in business, with a web site, use g-mail?
They say that they offer Diamond Points. They are targeting the UK it seems, so presume that these are Diamond UK points. No reseller is able to offer these - so that can't be true. The CIF number shown on the site is invalid on the EU verification site. That's two things that are checkably wrong.
All-in-all I would be more than uneasy. I would also expect that "advance fee" or not they will call back with an offer (we have taken a deposit &c) and will still want a "refundable" amount from you - which won't be.
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Posted - 16/09/2008 : 21:01:13
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| TKU gentlemen....I will be vary wary and will not part with any of my pounds or pennies. TM |
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Posted - 19/09/2008 : 15:42:08
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Hi
I am doing some research myself on Dandelion. They have given me an offer and although it all sounded reasonable initially they asked for a £500 Refundable retainer. After asking why they didn't trust me to send the ownership papers after money had been deposited in my bank she said that they needed it to allay the fears of the purchasers so that they did not lose their money. I replied that trust works both ways. I also tried to get their address. All she would say was that they were near the station. She even suggested that I try looking on the time share forums to check them out! I don't think I will do business with them. Sounds like yet another dodgy lot to me. |
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Posted - 19/09/2008 : 18:16:23
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When I was a kid, an old wives' tale doing the rounds was that if you picked or touched a dandelion you would wet the bed! Well, this lot are certainly taking the pxxx! Have some sport with them, give them the runaround, run up their telephone bill, but DO NOT give them your card details or send any money. Extract as much information as you can for possible future use as evidence against these and other scammers.
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Posted - 23/09/2008 : 14:34:27
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I was cold called by this lot about 2 week ago and was told by a nice talking lady "How would I like to sell my week at no cost?" "No cost" I said "Other companies like yourselves have rung and wanted money" but the lady assured me it wouldnt cost anything to sell...
I said I have not heard of the company, Dandelion Investments,so she promised to mail me information about themselves. She took my details - 1Bed at Club Flamingo Tenerife, and I forgot about them --- untill half one today!!
Apparently they have had a presentation and a buyer for my week is willing to pay (Wait for it....) £4200! and the buyer had paid a deposit. They wanted to know if the price was ok and to go ahead with the sale.
I said to the same lady the price was ok but I am not giving them any money which she replied it was normal practice for the seller to pay a refundable holding fee so that both parties held to the agreement. I thought the process was free as the first phone call but she replied that that was for the marketing!!
I then told her that she could be anybody asking for my credit card details and she offered to email me the deal. I suggested then that for all I knew she could be my next door neighbour having a bit of fun and would she give her details over the phone to someone they had just spoken to. I then asked her if she would try putting her company name in a google search to see if any one had had dealings with the company - she asked slowly "What do you mean? Dandelion Investments?" as if she wasn't sure about the name. Her voice was all of a sudden a lot slower and stuttered as she thanked me for my time and put the phone down.
I will be expecting more cold calls in the next few days as they are like buses - none for ages and then all come at the same time
Andypat
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Posted - 30/09/2008 : 08:18:42
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I was contacted last week by Dandelion Investments asking if I wanted to sell my timeshare. Lo and behold they phoned back this week with an "offer" requiring 1300 Euro upfront.
I have been caught out before so have not fallen for this one. Be careful, though, because they are very convincing. |
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Posted - 16/10/2008 : 09:14:57
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| Funnily enough, just had a run in with IHOC, who weren't too happy that I wasn't going to follow up on their offer (how do you expect to sell your timesahre if you don't trust anybody?) I had a cold call from Dandelion Investments who are willing to market my TS week for free and expect to be back to me in a few days with a really sensible offer! Not connected are they? |
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Posted - 18/10/2008 : 18:27:02
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Hello Strategic have you had a reply from Dandelion because i have been contacted by them today saying they had an offer for my timesharequote:
Originally posted by strategic
This co has contacted me offering to sell my timeshare.(dandelion.investments@gmail.co.uk)
Not a name I recognise. Does not come up on a 'Search' by name.
Anybody heard of it or any experience of dealing with please?
(When they have an offer they will call me back etc etc !!!)
The difference here is that they have been told by me: quote 'No upfront fees! I await there response (if any) with baited breath! Cheers. TM
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OldBill
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Posted - 18/10/2008 : 23:17:04
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| - but you aren't contemplating dealing with them, are you? |
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Posted - 19/10/2008 : 13:21:16
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Hi Calahonda.
No. Nothing heard..........I leave my phone on 'answerphone' and despite some weird noises no messages left by them. However I have been cold called by similar companies...I am obviously on some list doing the rounds.
(Have recently spent a week in Spain...and there are 1,000's of unsold, unfinished apartments...the market has collapsed I think. Cheers TM |
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Posted - 20/10/2008 : 15:38:42
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Dandelion Investments.
Just ended a good one hour grueller by refusing to pay their refundable deposit by credit card, which was "my security".Does this mean they have a c/c loophole? |
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Posted - 21/10/2008 : 15:23:23
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quote:
Originally posted by strategic
This co has contacted me offering to sell my timeshare.(dandelion.investments@gmail.co.uk)
Not a name I recognise. Does not come up on a 'Search' by name.
Anybody heard of it or any experience of dealing with please?
(When they have an offer they will call me back etc etc !!!)
The difference here is that they have been told by me: quote 'No upfront fees! I await there response (if any) with baited breath! Cheers. TM
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Posted - 21/10/2008 : 15:29:15
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| i have just been contacted by this company and have asked them to send me an e-mail stating that they would never ever require any mony up front - still waiting for e-mail! |
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Posted - 24/10/2008 : 21:19:46
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I've been asked by my parents, who are trying to sell their Timeshare, to look into a company called Dandelion Investments SL.
They had been given all the info concerning no upfront fees etc, and agreed to let Dandelion sell it for them. Dandelion then contacted my parents saying they had a buyer and that they needed a 1300 Euro refundable deposit from my parents for sale to commence.
Unfortunately, my parents have paid this deposit and today received their sale pack containing the contact etc. Reading through the contract it states that should the buyer withdraw from the sale, Dandelion will continue to find a new buyer for 90 days, should this time pass without a buyer being found, the deposit becomes non-refundable.
My parents are gutted. This isn't the first time they have been conned trying to sell their timeshare. I was wondering whether there is anything they can do to get their money back? (although I fear there is nothing) |
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OldBill
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Posted - 24/10/2008 : 22:17:22
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| 1) Are they still within seven days of paying? If so they are able to cancel and require the refund of the payment - although no doubt the documents were timed to arrive on the 8th day. 2) Did they pay by credit card? |
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 20:01:54
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Thanks for getting back OldBill
1) The documents turned up on the 8th day, but it does state there is a 14 day cooling off period. My parents are attempting to cancel after hearing the views from this forum, but we assume that this will make no difference and are expecting them to ignore the cancellation, taking the money.
2) Yes they have paid by credit card |
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Posted - 25/10/2008 : 21:43:12
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| They should cancel in writing by International signed for service (immediate e-mail as well if they have an address). Let the credit card company know immediately by phone that the transaction is to be cancelled and a refund requested, then copy the cancellation letter to them. |
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Posted - 26/10/2008 : 12:11:54
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Credit card company contacted this morning and they have been informed of the cancellation. As well as confirming the information you gave, they have told my parents that if no refund received in 90 days they will get involved.
Thanks for the advice OldBill, my dad is very relived, just wished he had looked here before handing over his money. As soon as the're back on internet (imminently) I'll make sure this site is top of their bookmark list.
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Posted - 06/11/2008 : 16:27:41
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| Just to confirm they are very active, called me today for permission to markey my timeshare in their next 'presentation' I agreed but said no fees up front but offered to deposit my deeds with a solicitor as my guarantee, they backed off. |
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Posted - 19/11/2008 : 16:51:27
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| We paid a deposit by credit card. I tried phoning them today but no reply.If they were there genuine you would expect an answer. They do have a quite good website, but if the CIF no. is false then it is useless. They have a second email info@dandelion-investments.com In my experience everyone who calls you is a fraud. The ETA group aren't selling so why should anyone else? R. Bailey |
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Posted - 13/12/2008 : 12:59:41
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Hi.. Just joined following a search for Dandelion Investments...
They have sold my timeshare :-)
I asked them to email me the details... see if you can spot the scam...
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Dandelion Investments SL
The Way Forward
12.12.2008
Dear Mr Cone
Further to our recent contact, we can confirm that we currently hold an offer of £10,500.00 for the following named shared ownership property,
Westgate Towers, Florida, 2 bed unit, week 49.
We also confirm that the agreed retainer fee of 995.00€ will be credited to the vendor subject to the exchange of all documents to conclude a successful sale and transfer of ownership.
We will contact you shortly to further the sale of your shared ownership property.
Should you require any further help or information, please do not hesitate to contact us on 0034 952 666 243 or by email or by post to the address below.
Yours truly,
Rebecca Middleton
For Dandelion Investments SL
Dandelion Investments SL
Apartado de Correos 1064, Sucursal No. 1, 29640, Fuengirola, Malaga, Spain
CIF: B92878461
Tel: 952 666 243
Email: info@dandelion-investments.com Web site: www.dandelion-investments.com |
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Posted - 13/12/2008 : 16:11:45
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WOW What a fantastic price, you need to bite their hand off !!!
(I am joking of course )
If you Google Westgate Towers, Florida, 2 bed unit, week 49, you will bring up a list of vendors that have listed similar properties to yours, and sorry to say, they don't come anywhere near the price these crooks have offered you. And bear in mind, the price's listed are in US $.
Maybe they should have done some homework before they offered you so much.
Anyhow, upfront fee rules them out of being genuine anyway.
What a bunch of scamming morons !!  |
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Posted - 31/12/2008 : 16:18:42
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They pestered my wife yesterday (nearly burnt our tea - darned cheek!). I have her well primed these days so she was adamant that if they wanted any money up front they could whistle.
They sent us the offer letter today £5000 for two weeks High Season in the IoM and mentioned the dreaded 'agreed' (yeah, right!) retainer of £995.
I sent them a reply reminding them of the need to actually listen to people and wishing them a Happy and Prosperous New Year, preferably spent with the offending offer letter protruding from a place where the sun does not shine!.
It does frighten me that there must still be enough gullible people out there to make their time worthwhile. |
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Posted - 17/01/2009 : 04:05:38
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| Regarding Dandelion Investments SL, beware of Envizions.co.uk, they appear to be acting as agents for them. Was cold called by 'nice talking lady' on behalf of Envizions. They would like to sell my timeshare for an attractive price, no money up front (specifically queried). This was of course an absolute lie. Contacted later by gent from same company to confirm if I wished to proceed as they already had a Corporate Client wishing to purchase. Much was made of their London Docklands address (why does Gordon Gecko spring to mind). Towards end of proceedings, it turned out I would have to provide my Credit Card details for £1100 'Liability Insurance' in case I reneged on the deal (as if). I put deal on hold at that point and requested some more info by e-mail. It turns out that the sample contract is with 'Dandelion Investments SL' of Malaga subject to Malagasian Laws (what price a Docklands address at this stage) and the contract is of course a Marketing contract and not a Sale contract. I have a friend who underwent an almost identical procedure with a company that advertises on TV, based in Gibraltar, i.e. Corporate Client, attractive price, upfront fee for some specific requirement. When the 'Corporate Client' evaporated, it took her nearly 2 years to recover the fee from her credit card company. |
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Posted - 17/01/2009 : 13:26:41
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Envizions says that it is Envizions Group plc, with a registered office at 22 Coborn Road, London. A UK Registered Office means a UK registered company. It is not. This would seem to be illegal. Much of the site content has been lifted from a US timeshare reseller's site.
PLEASE NOTE that I checked a site envizions.net in case it was linked - this produces a flag stating that it is believed to distribute malware. Don't go there. |
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Posted - 19/03/2009 : 16:24:09
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Gentlemen,
I live in Fuengirola and have been asked to look into a few of these companies, amongst them UNIVERSAL TRANSFERS, DANDILION INVESTMENTS and E T O O . Do NOT, under any circumstances part with any money.
I will try to keep you informed of similar scam enterprises which, unfortunately, pop up here all too often.
I hope you get to read this as I have the feeling that someone out there does not like the crux of this message (having had to re-type it three times) (four times now. Who is behind this forum? |
kind regards / m.v.g.
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Posted - 19/03/2009 : 17:05:03
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Not quite sure I understand what you are saying.
What do you mean " you have been asked to look into these companys" ?
Who has asked you to do this ?
In what capacity are you doing this ?
Are you Law Enforcement ?
Are you legal Profession ?
Or are you just an Interested party or owner ?
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Posted - 03/05/2009 : 13:27:55
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A few days ago I was cold called by the above company offering to sell my Timeshare. Bearing in mind the economic climate they quickly received an offer of £7400 for my two weeks & sent me a copy contract that is totally stacked in their favour.
Having already fallen for the Timeshare sales scam, paid and lost my deposit I am of the opinion they are also a scam company.
The have a web site www.enizions.co.uk & email address contact@envizions.co.uk. I also have two phone numbers 02000019667 & 01213630020 that have been used to contact me. The latter is a Birmingham number.
Their registered address is Envizions Group PLC, Coborn House, 22 Coborn Road, Docklands, London, E3 2DA, Phone:0844 598 9021.
Having checked Google Street View the address is very residential. Pleasant town house with dark blue door under arch & yellow alarm above and few doors down from the Coborn Arms.
I am unable trace them as a Plc which they claim to be and assume they are running a Timeshare sales scam. I requested to know their registration number & have not heard from them since. Strange.
They also offered to assist obtaining the return of the payment I have already made to a company in Spain running the same scam.
I have also reported them to the OFT & trust they will take approriate action.
Would like to know if others have been contacted and even paid money to them.
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