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 Posted - 04/04/2004 : 18:13:52
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We presently are owners at Plas Talgarth week 13, appartment sleeps 4 with 2 bathrooms 1 bedroom. We bought it 6 years ago. The maintenance fee was around £160 which gave a good saving when compared to renting the same appartment. We were very naive at the time!!!
The resort needed a refurbishment and there were accountancy issues so we were informed that there was a refurbishment fee added onto the maintenance fee. Simply put this meant that as an owner we were paying £120-£180 more over the 5 year period for each year than if we rented.
As you can appreciate we are very vexed!!!
We have had it on fast track sale at Dalfaber for 2 years but as you can guess no sale. We have even said we will give it back to them at no charge. Recently I was informed that they had to make money on it so they would put in on their web site and take a nominal 35% of the sale fee they chose.
I am unsure where I stand in law on this as surely:
1. Charging more for an owner than a renter is not ethically right.
2. If I want to state a price to sell even if it is free why cannot I do this??
Any help appreciated. All we know we are around £3,300 out of pocket. We will never touch time share again - anon |
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Posted - 04/04/2004 : 18:29:32
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To the people who own a week of macdonalds timeshare, you can give it back.We gave ours back, after a long fight for £1.
Legally you are locked in a contract, which states you have to pay the maintenance fee, but in our case, as in yours, the week had been for sale for ages.There was little communication, regarding the sale, except from us.We had proof that the rental was less than the maintenance fees.if you get someone to telephone and ask for a rental brochure you have your proof.
Go and see a solicitor and have a letter sent to their sales team, no one wants to take blame, and you will have a sound result.
If like us, you just want rid, then give it back.
However,if you want money back for it - then forget it, who wants a money wasting holiday home?!!
Beware everyone who visits a macdonald resort - dont be tempted to buy, they are all money wasting holiday weeks - even the weeks on the costa del Sol are hard to get rid of - we have friends who have had threats made to them. - ex macdonald owner |
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Posted - 04/04/2004 : 19:43:59
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- even the weeks on the costa del Sol are hard to get rid of -
Weeks on the Costa Del Sol will be the hardest to get rid of. Although a lot of people want to go on holiday in Spain there are a huge number of timeshare units available. Value depends on supply and demand. We also own at Plas Talgarth in Wales and whilst we are as unhappy as everybody else with the high maintenance fees, we have successfully exchanged a total of 14 weeks and rented the unit out one year. Plas Talgarth has recently regained Gold Crown status so will hopefully be in even higher demand in future.
To sell it you can always try ebay. A unit in Plas Talgarth sold recently on Ebay, I know as I was one of the unsuccessful bidders. |
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Posted - 14/04/2004 : 17:35:48
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| I owned two weeks at MacDonalds Dona Lola Spain. They were on the fast track for sale two years. Again they were not sold so I gave them to a colleague for a £1 she used them twice and then traded the weeks for points. You will sell them on ebay-(Aberfolye Holidays is an active trader in MacDonalds timeshare) I have been looking for another week at Dona Lola as i want to use the Passport to Leisure but now find this can only be used 12 times in the year so not good value for me. I required this because I now own my own place in Spain however you can sell them yourself but the biggest problem is the transfer cost which is £285. I think this is a licence for MacDonalds to print money-The other problem is they are filling the resorts up with tour companies which defeats the object of timeshare-Bob40 |
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 05:56:53
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I only wish Macdonald ownwers realised the power that they really hold over the developer. If they could only gather en-masse, use all their voting Rights together, this would soon bring the developer,managment company,rental company,re-sale company to their knees.
At such a crucial stage of "Aviemore The Resort" the last thing Macdonalds need is full scale revolt of the existing member base.
With the continuing failure of Options this members base and rental programme is the only guarnteed income they have. - Macdonald Owners
Has everyone forgotten that in perpetuity means lifetime! On one hand this works very well for continuing to bring in annual maintenance but on the other hand. If someone is not happy with the way in which their owned property is being managed and how much they are overcharged for this service. Then it is high time for a complete revolt!
p.s. If you care enough. post your comments and get the ball rolling.
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 06:05:07
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Macdonalds Hotels indicated in a letter to Loch Rannoch Highland Club Timeshare owners that due to the "loss of income from the management contract" they would be considering upgrading the Loch Rannoch Hotel to a four star property. They further indicate that one of the requirements of a four star property is that the pool is for "Hotel Residents Only"
This is a veiled threat to deny us access to the pool permanently.
Meanwhile at Dalfaber in Aviemore they are upgrading their Hotel to four star and receiving shedloads of Public Money (£600,00 from the European Regional Development Fund" and £2 million for Moray Badenoch and Strathspey Enterprise plus various other sources to equal £6.5 million)) partially "in order to allow Highland Council "subsidised" swimming for the public".
given Dalfabers ongoing problems with people from the local Estate I don't foresee Macdonalds opening it's arms and embracing the locals into it's new four star property...but perhaps I'm a cynic!!!
BUT what I can say with certainty is that it appears that MacDonalds can't quite keep their story straight!.... Or are they going to build this nice new pool and then let the council and MBSE know AFTER the money is spent, that the public actually won't be allowed in the pool as it would jeopardise their star rating?
Even further when Jim Wallace first minister made a trip to view the refurbishment plans in Aviemore he noted that this was a welcome turn of events after years of neglect.
AND WHO was neglecting the property? The managers... Macdonald Higland resorts? Talk about the fox watching the chickens!!!
AND with Macdonalds trying to pressure all the timeshare owners into joining Options there is no doubt further scandal ahead at Dalfaber and any other resort they have any interest in.
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Posted - 15/07/2004 : 01:15:55
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At any time in the future, Macdonalds can decide to'revalue' the points and demand more money from you, and guess what? you don't pay to upgrade, well, you ain't got enough points to take a holiday son,so get your wallet out and smile while they swipe your gold card. They have got you by the b*lls ! End of story !!
We were lucky as we have only ever bought resale weeks from them and never paid more than £1000 for a week, so for us, using the exchange it works well enough, but I feel really sorry for folks who have paid £8000 + for weeks and then been conned into paying more for the useless point system. However, that is their problem, not mine.
The OPTIONS scheme is failing so badly that they have now re-introduced the selling of resale weeks, ( which they swore they would never do), and one assumes that they have had to do this to keep Donny Mac happy so he sees revenue still comming in and therefore distracts some of the heat from the fact that OPTIONS is a dead duck !
The resorts are FULL of travel operator clients and the like, and we can say goodbye to the 'Private Club' they told us about when we bought. I have no problem with them trying to make money and fill the resorts, but, and this is a big but, all that extra rental revenue goes to Donny Mac, NONE of it goes to keep our yearly maintenence fees at a realistic level. Donny Mac gets richer, the owners get more screwed !
The sooner our owners committees get their fingers out of their a**ses and stand up to Macdonalds, the better !
We have seen from Loch Rannock that it can be done and they have brought the maintenence DOWN, AND improved the facilities. It is high time that if our various owners commitees cannot do the job in the interests of the owners, that we vote them out and get folks in that CAN look after our interests. We should not be regarded as a profit centre for Macdonalds !!!!! |
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To the people who own a week of macdonalds timeshare, you can give it back.We gave ours back, after a long fight for £1.
Legally you are locked in a contract, which states you have to pay the maintenance fee, but in our case, as in yours, the week had been for sale for ages.There was little communication, regarding the sale, except from us.We had proof that the rental was less than the maintenance fees.if you get someone to telephone and ask for a rental brochure you have your proof.
Go and see a solicitor and have a letter sent to their sales team, no one wants to take blame, and you will have a sound result.
If like us, you just want rid, then give it back.
However,if you want money back for it - then forget it, who wants a money wasting holiday home?!!
Beware everyone who visits a macdonald resort - dont be tempted to buy, they are all money wasting holiday weeks - even the weeks on the costa del Sol are hard to get rid of - we have friends who have had threats made to them. - ex macdonald owner
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To the people who own a week of macdonalds timeshare, you can give it back.We gave ours back, after a long fight for £1.
Legally you are locked in a contract, which states you have to pay the maintenance fee, but in our case, as in yours, the week had been for sale for ages.There was little communication, regarding the sale, except from us.We had proof that the rental was less than the maintenance fees.if you get someone to telephone and ask for a rental brochure you have your proof.
Go and see a solicitor and have a letter sent to their sales team, no one wants to take blame, and you will have a sound result.
If like us, you just want rid, then give it back.
However,if you want money back for it - then forget it, who wants a money wasting holiday home?!!
Beware everyone who visits a macdonald resort - dont be tempted to buy, they are all money wasting holiday weeks - even the weeks on the costa del Sol are hard to get rid of - we have friends who have had threats made to them. - ex macdonald owner
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| with reference to message posted by soso apr 4 2004. I too have had my timeshare for sale at plas talgarth for last 4 years. and have not received any enquiries re poss buyer except letter from macdonalds stating that sales fee had gone up. with info re giving back deeds and walking away without any payment for timeshare could yourself or anyone else explain proceedure. Do you need solicitor ? please help one desperate owner of 2 weeks who just wants to walk away. |
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We bought two weeks in Dona Lola over two years ago. On our first visit there we were approached by 'Jules' ie. by ringing our doorbell earlier on the first Sunday morning.
We met Jules later in the week and discussed the possibility of upgrading to a two bedroom. We were told there was no upgrade path. The sales manager suggested a solution - we buy two weeks of repossessed timeshare for £7000 and they would sell our original apartment. They gave us the impression that the market was boyant and that it would probably sell in a few months. On more than one occasion they said it would not take a year to sell. This sounded very appealling.
Needless to say it is now two and a half years later and the timeshare remains unsold. We are now lumbered with 4 weeks of timeshare in the same place at roughly the same time. You can imaging how much the maintenance is!
Basically we were misled by Jules and the sales manager Gianci. Plus I doubt they lifted a finger to sell our timeshare.
Avoid these two men at all costs! They are no better than the timeshare scratch card people you meet in the streets! |
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Seanwalsh - your Dona Lola experience looks decidely like the buy/sell scam - for which John Palmer got eights years in prison in 2002!
If you paid more than £100 by credit card then consider a claim under the Consumer Credit Act on the grounds of misrepresentation and/or breach of contract.
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Posted - 17/07/2004 : 14:42:42
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| Another situation regarding the OPTIONS twist is that a lodge can only be sold once for a particular week but options just sell the opportunity to ask for a particular week, you might not get it because you were TOO LATE with your application but we do have spaces at some other resort that you had not the slightest intention of going to. that is what you could be told, and having already paid your yearly fee you will want to get some benefit or lose the value.STICK to what you have, do internal swaps, soon the Rannoch people will have a swap shop at a rate that will afford two holidays.The Rannoch boys. god bless them .have cut the strangulation rope and are about to tie Macnot up keep working. |
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Hi Robin
I think you (or a colleague) sent me an email with almost exactly the same text.
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Seanwalsh - your Dona Lola experience looks decidely like the buy/sell scam - for which John Palmer got eights years in prison in 2002!
If you paid more than £100 by credit card then consider a claim under the Consumer Credit Act on the grounds of misrepresentation and/or breach of contract.
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What is this nonsense regarding Macdonald's "Loch Rannoch Lochside Resort". There is no such resort! Macdonalds has a few weeks that they don't pay any management weeks for and therefore have no access according to our management company.
Yes... there are indeed a few "lochside" studios within the timeshare resort that Macdonadls has nothing to do with...Sooooo What are they trying to pull NOW? Do they have some covert plan to take over the timeshares and change the name? Or are they really trying to sell property they don't own?
check out http://www.optionsbymacdonald.com. I just don't understand!?!
Check out the pop up that states you can buy re-sale fixed weeks at ALL "MacDonald Resorts" and includes Loch Rannoch "Lochside" in the list with the telephone of the Loch Rannoch Hotel. Apparently, they have actually set up a fixed week timeshare sales office at the Hotel with a man named Simon Reid in charge. How can they get away with this?
I thought it was against the law to sell things you don't own...but then I also thought it would be against the law for Macdonalds to lock us out of a pool/gym and other facilities that we were sold and had been charged to renovate.
Perhaps Scottish Law does allow these things.
For further evidence of misrepresentation check out the "Loch Rannoch Lochside" links on the site.
click resorts>scotland>loch rannoch lochside> accomodation
here you will find a complete description of OUR timeshares and a wee blurb at the bottom about additional hotel accomodation making ABUNDANTLY clear that they are indeed "pretending" (misrepresenting???) that they have control of our timeshares.
the real kicker is this link!!! click resorts>scotland>loch rannoch lochside>health/leisure WOW!!! they list the indoor pool, marina, childrens club tec... etc.. which they have denied access to the timeshare owners for over two years. So glad they finally ADMIT that they are part of the timeshare facilities. I will carry a print out of this page during my next visit to the resort and expect full use of these facilities!
one last note ... click resorts>scotland>loch rannoch lochside>facilities and yet again you see a description of our lodges but with an even further aside about how the conservatories were added on... just in case Macdonalds attempts to say that the properties they are offering for re-sale /use via the options scheme are "new build"
APALLING!!!
To top off the whole lot...once MacDonalds sell fixed weeks at their resorts they then send out the "MacDonalds Option" scheme brochure. If someone doesn't read the fine print they will only later realise they have just given away the right to use the fixed week they just bought as well as the right to exchange it with Interval or RCI AND their voting rights for 30 years so they will have joined the ranks of people complaining about Holiday Clubs..still owe a mangement fee on the week they can't use AND have points that will not get them a week at a resort unless they top up with more points costing MORE MONEY.AAAAARGH!!!
Has Barratry been changed formally to MacDonaldry yet? and where do we vote for Timeshare sh*t of the year? - Fed Up Loch Rannoch owner |
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Posted - 27/09/2004 : 00:09:33
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We too had a loch rannoch december week. I said HAD. we put it on their fast track resale list for approx 2 yrs, but it didnt sell.
Then most of the trouble started with Mcdonalds withdrawing all leisure facilities. Reputable resale companies would not sell a low grade wk withall the associated problems and then RCI withdrew it from their exchange system. Finally I advertised it locally as a lodge without facilities for FREE. We had some interest and transfered ownership last yr. We only paid 300 sterling pounds for the wk initially and wanted to use it for exchanges. Unfortunately it got to the point where we couldnt exchange with RCI (dial an exchange still accepted) and we were paying huge maintenance for something we could no longer use. The new management company drew up the agreement for change of ownership and charged the 30 pounds fee, i note that 2 of the correspondances state their weeks were sold for one pound. WHY NOT FREE?, have we inadvertently done something silly? cant bear the thought we are possibly still the legal owners! |
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Posted - 11/10/2004 : 19:43:56
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Oct 11 2004
Latest Update regarding Loch Rannoch Resort -From The Herald October 08 2004-byline Simon Bain- Hotel group drops claim for management fees ---
Macdonald Hotels has abandoned a damages claim for £800,000 against three individuals elected to the committee of the Loch Rannoch timeshare resort. It has also decided not to contest resolutions at tomorrow's annual meeting of resort owners, following a series of rebuffs at previous meetings.
The hotel group has been staging a rearguard action to win back the contract to manage the resort, ever since owners last year voted overwhelmingly for a new committee mandated to appoint a management company set up by owners.
The new company reported recently that it had made a small surplus in its first year despite cutting fees by 16% and improving services, with a further reduction of 5% planned for the current year. That was in spite of hefty legal bills for fighting Macdonald in court.
As The Herald has reported, as well as suing the committee members, Macdonald's tactics have included refusing to hand over the list of resort owners, taking out an injunction to prevent the resort manager transferring her employment, and banning owners from the hotel, swimming pool and facilities on the site. The hotel ban was lifted in June.
Macdonald is still pursuing a legal claim to have the award of the new contract set aside.
However, a diet of debate scheduled for the Court of Session yesterday and today was cancelled when Macdonald dropped its £800,000 damages claim against the committee, after being informed that the committee would no longer pursue its claim against Macdonald for the handover of the list of resort owners, as the committee now has the information it requires.
The £800,000 claim was for management fees uncollected from owners when Macdonald was running the resort.
In another sign of the cooling temperature, for the first time the hotel group's representatives will not be attending the annual meeting, held in Stirling tomorrow.
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We have owned our two weeks of timeshare at Villacana since 1987. Included in the sales pitch were "no maintenance fees if we didn't use the timeshare as it would be rented out", "an investment which in the long term would show an increase", "if we wanted to re-sell there was an active resale program". I will admit we were gullible, as this was verbal and not written and we have no proof that this was said. I do have copies of letters that were sent to Barratts stating what was said, but their answers basically say the salesman no longer works for them and they are not responsible for what he promised. Despite asking for it to be sold through the re-sale scheme for over ten years we still own the timeshare. We have now received our second letter from a debt collection agency for unpaid maintenance. I would be more than happy to give it back to Macdonalds, just to get them off our backs. Has anyone else had experience of giving their timeshare back, or actually been taken to court by Macdonalds?
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Originally posted by soso
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To the people who own a week of macdonalds timeshare, you can give it back.We gave ours back, after a long fight for £1.
Legally you are locked in a contract, which states you have to pay the maintenance fee, but in our case, as in yours, the week had been for sale for ages.There was little communication, regarding the sale, except from us.We had proof that the rental was less than the maintenance fees.if you get someone to telephone and ask for a rental brochure you have your proof.
Go and see a solicitor and have a letter sent to their sales team, no one wants to take blame, and you will have a sound result.
If like us, you just want rid, then give it back.
However,if you want money back for it - then forget it, who wants a money wasting holiday home?!!
Beware everyone who visits a macdonald resort - dont be tempted to buy, they are all money wasting holiday weeks - even the weeks on the costa del Sol are hard to get rid of - we have friends who have had threats made to them. - ex macdonald owner
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We have now received a telephone message from the debt collection agency asking us to call them. What to do next is the question. Any polite suggestions gratefully received.
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We have owned our two weeks of timeshare at Villacana since 1987. Included in the sales pitch were "no maintenance fees if we didn't use the timeshare as it would be rented out", "an investment which in the long term would show an increase", "if we wanted to re-sell there was an active resale program". I will admit we were gullible, as this was verbal and not written and we have no proof that this was said. I do have copies of letters that were sent to Barratts stating what was said, but their answers basically say the salesman no longer works for them and they are not responsible for what he promised. Despite asking for it to be sold through the re-sale scheme for over ten years we still own the timeshare. We have now received our second letter from a debt collection agency for unpaid maintenance. I would be more than happy to give it back to Macdonalds, just to get them off our backs. Has anyone else had experience of giving their timeshare back, or actually been taken to court by Macdonalds?
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Originally posted by soso
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To the people who own a week of macdonalds timeshare, you can give it back.We gave ours back, after a long fight for £1.
Legally you are locked in a contract, which states you have to pay the maintenance fee, but in our case, as in yours, the week had been for sale for ages.There was little communication, regarding the sale, except from us.We had proof that the rental was less than the maintenance fees.if you get someone to telephone and ask for a rental brochure you have your proof.
Go and see a solicitor and have a letter sent to their sales team, no one wants to take blame, and you will have a sound result.
If like us, you just want rid, then give it back.
However,if you want money back for it - then forget it, who wants a money wasting holiday home?!!
Beware everyone who visits a macdonald resort - dont be tempted to buy, they are all money wasting holiday weeks - even the weeks on the costa del Sol are hard to get rid of - we have friends who have had threats made to them. - ex macdonald owner
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Further to my previous post, I have set up a forum for Macdonald owners who are having problems at http://www.macd.ecclesweb.co.uk
This has not been set up in competition with Timeshare Talk, but is there just to focus on the on the problems that Macdonald timeshare owners are having. I am sure there are a lot of you out there.
If you have any suggestion for the forum, please feel free to post them. |
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Posted - 24/11/2004 : 09:04:59
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Update:
We have now received a telephone message from the debt collection agency asking us to call them. What to do next is the question. Any polite suggestions gratefully received.
Contact the agency immediately. Don't bury your head in the sand as this will not go away. Tell them the situation and that you are asking Macdonalds to take the unit back. That will hopefully give you a bit of breathing space at least. You may now find that even if Macdonalds are prepared to take the unit back you will have to bear the costs of the debt collection agency.
I cannot stress too strongly that time is of the essence here. You must be seen to be trying to get things sorted. |
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Further to my previous post, I have set up a forum for Macdonald owners who are having problems at http://www.macd.ecclesweb.co.uk
This has not been set up in competition with Timeshare Talk, but is there just to focus on the on the problems that Macdonald timeshare owners are having. I am sure there are a lot of you out there.
If you have any suggestion for the forum, please feel free to post them.
Eccles,
Don't worry we won't see you as competition. We support owners groups all the way. Please let your members know about Timesharetalk though if you can and we will return likewise. |
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Thanks for the comment. There is a link to this forum on the one I have set up. This forum has been exteremly useful to me, as you begin to imagine that you're the only person who is having a problem with a particular timeshare company. Keep up the great work.
For anyone else who has been reading this thread and my particular problem, things have moved on and it looks as though I have reached a settlement with Macdonald Resorts. I will be putting more info onto the Macdonald Owners site when I am sure everything has gone through.
My philosophy has been "Never give up or give in" and for me it seems to have worked. |
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Hopefully a final update on my situation. I have posted an item under news at http://www.macd.ecclesweb.co.uk/ where you can see the most recent correspondence I have had with Network Credit Services and Macdonald Resorts.
The end of a nightmare. |
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I only wish Macdonald ownwers realised the power that they really hold over the developer. If they could only gather en-masse, use all their voting Rights together, this would soon bring the developer,managment company,rental company,re-sale company to their knees.
At such a crucial stage of "Aviemore The Resort" the last thing Macdonalds need is full scale revolt of the existing member base.
With the continuing failure of Options this members base and rental programme is the only guarnteed income they have. - Macdonald Owners
Has everyone forgotten that in perpetuity means lifetime! On one hand this works very well for continuing to bring in annual maintenance but on the other hand. If someone is not happy with the way in which their owned property is being managed and how much they are overcharged for this service. Then it is high time for a complete revolt!
p.s. If you care enough. post your comments and get the ball rolling.
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Originally posted by online
July 8 2004
I only wish Macdonald ownwers realised the power that they really hold over the developer. If they could only gather en-masse, use all their voting Rights together, this would soon bring the developer,managment company,rental company,re-sale company to their knees.
At such a crucial stage of "Aviemore The Resort" the last thing Macdonalds need is full scale revolt of the existing member base.
With the continuing failure of Options this members base and rental programme is the only guarnteed income they have. - Macdonald Owners
Has everyone forgotten that in perpetuity means lifetime! On one hand this works very well for continuing to bring in annual maintenance but on the other hand. If someone is not happy with the way in which their owned property is being managed and how much they are overcharged for this service. Then it is high time for a complete revolt!
p.s. If you care enough. post your comments and get the ball rolling.
We have owned since 1987 at Plas Talgarth, Lapwing 1, sleeps 6, 2 Bedrooms, 3 bath rooms. The sales people just tell more and more lies and never achieve any form of sale, we have tried to sell for about 6 years now with not even a nibble. Please let me know how to get rid of this damn money pit. I'll never touch any form of time share again.
I have offered it back to them for nothing, with held managment fees but no joy at all!
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Keitht
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Posted - 05/05/2006 : 15:50:36
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Originally posted by Phil Standen
We have owned since 1987 at Plas Talgarth, Lapwing 1, sleeps 6, 2 Bedrooms, 3 bath rooms. The sales people just tell more and more lies and never achieve any form of sale, we have tried to sell for about 6 years now with not even a nibble. Please let me know how to get rid of this damn money pit. I'll never touch any form of time share again.
I have offered it back to them for nothing, with held managment fees but no joy at all!
Phil,
Can you expand on what you mean by more and more lies? Who set the sale price - you or the sales team at the resort? Is the requested price realistic?
I had been looking on Ebay for a second unit at Plas Talgarth and I saw nothing going for more than £1500 and most was sold at under £1000. (I'm not currently in the market for a purchase by the way)
Refusing to pay the management fees is likely to end up with you losing the unit AND ending up in court for non payment or having the bailiffs knocking on your door.
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davidc
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Posted - 01/08/2007 : 10:38:49
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We have owned two weeks at MacDonalds Dona Lola for six years, we bought because we like the resort and visit it every Spring. Yes service charges have risen from £210.00 pw to £320.00 pw but we only paid £2,000 for both weeks.This means that we are now at break even on ownership v renting, not an investment glory but definately not a mistake.
We bought one week from the on site Points shop and the other from a timeshare resale company. We would never consider doing any deal with the on-site sales people, they are hard faced liars who don't even know that what they are attempting to sell you is vastly over priced. Don't waste your time with them, treat them as you would a timeshare shark who stops you on the street.
Don't leave your brains back home, think before you buy, we did and have enjoyed every stay at Dona Lola and are looking forward to next Spring. Infact if anyone is thinking of giving away say a ground floor apartment in Margareta or one of the beach front ones next to the steps onto the beach look no further. |
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neillark
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Posted - 26/02/2009 : 09:05:24
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Elmers court Owners
I like many own a week at Elmers court, I have for 3 years made enquiries about joining the owners group but have not exactly been welcomed with open arms. I do not know any other individual owner at the resort so cannot be seconded, when I did write an election letter for the coming election I talked about the need to manage charges and reduce the cost of ownership. I was told that I should not make statements like that and should just talk about myself....
The resort now takes over £25,000 a year for each and every room it manages and suggests it finds it difficult to manage on that budget.. I would suggest that I can manage and update and repair a 4 bedroom house for much, much less that that a year let alone a 1 bed apt!
If there are other owners at Elmers court who are seing the value of their investment plummet each year and be tied in to shocking maintenance charges that increase massivly above inflation each year then message me and we can see what we can do. |
Timeshare has the potential to be great. Good people can make it live up to its potential. |
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tenseven42
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Posted - 04/03/2009 : 17:38:28
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| Any past or present Macdonald sales representative who would like to hear information which maybe beneficial to them please contact me via this site or at tenseven42@yahoo.co.uk |
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