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Timeshare Industry => RCI => Topic started by: alzaus08 on January 11, 2009, 19:48:48

Title: Questions about RCI resorts and exchanges
Post by: alzaus08 on January 11, 2009, 19:48:48
Hello.

Iam newbie in timesharing.
Have read a lot of information in web and this forum..but still have a

lot of questions.
Hope you can help me with that.

Anyway Sorry that i asking so much....but havnt any other way to find

answers in nuances of timesharing in RCI.

Firstly iam points resort owner.

1) Can i check in not only at Fr,Sat,Sun....or maybe at other day..If

yes the week will beging from day i check in or not?

2)Can i buy not only full week? I mean i can get just 2,3,4 or more

days...and will pay only for days i booked in resort, not for full

(7days) week?

3)About Late deals and Instant Exchange reservations ....is it same?

As i understand "Late deals" it is advantage for weeks users to get low

price weeks in 45 days or less period..and you pay money for this

week(normally from 140$-300$) and not pay for exchange or any other

fee.....Yes?

And Instant Exchange reservations it same thing but for Points

users...and you pay 9000 points or less for week ......but as i heard

you pay exchange fee too.....if its truth...why as point user i need to

pay points(it is money for points users) and must pay fee too and weeks

users no need to pay fee for late deals?

4) What about extra holidays? need i need to pay any fee for get it?Or

just can pay money for week and go on.?

5)If i want to get several weeks on same resort in same time....need i

pay exchange fee for each week? And if i get two or three weeks on same

resort and same time in Instant Exchange reservations  for 9000 points  

or less.....i still need to pay two or three echanges fees??

6)Need i pay money for converting my week to points.....I have points

week...so every year if i willnt do anything i will get points to my

account(my home resort told me)...but need i pay something to RCI for

that?

7)How easy to get several weeks in one resort? Or it can be the

problem?(for us to travel less than 2 week are not profitable because

we are living in Russia so air tickets to most places are biggest part

of money)

8)I heard that with points system i have more resorts to choose than

weeks owners....is it truth?

9) Heard that exchange in points system much cheaper than in week

system in RCI.....lesser than 100$(50 or 60?)

10) Is it truth that not all resorts i can get for exchange......some

resorts will tell "NO" without reasoned answer.(i heard that Luxery

resorts...Hilton,Marriot,Sheraton...practice it)

11) Why i searching resorts in Asia on RCI.com and found that they are

offer hotels rooms(for two person) without kitchen...is it normal
Title: Questions about RCI resorts and exchanges
Post by: Keitht on January 11, 2009, 21:35:31
quote:
Originally posted by alzaus08

but havnt any other way to find

answers in nuances of timesharing in RCI.

Firstly iam points resort owner.

quote:
1) Can i check in not only at Fr,Sat,Sun....or maybe at other day..If

yes the week will beging from day i check in or not?


Check in days vary from resort to resort.  Look in the Directory on the RCI web site for any resort you are interested in and it will say.

quote:
2)Can i buy not only full week? I mean i can get just 2,3,4 or more

days...and will pay only for days i booked in resort, not for full

(7days) week?


It is sometimes possible to use Points for short breaks, but again this depends on the rules at individual resorts.

quote:
3)About Late deals and Instant Exchange reservations ....is it same?

As i understand "Late deals" it is advantage for weeks users to get low price weeks in 45 days or less period..and you pay money for this week(normally from 140$-300$) and not pay for exchange or any other fee.....Yes?

And Instant Exchange reservations it same thing but for Points users...and you pay 9000 points or less for week ......but as i heard you pay exchange fee too.....if its truth...why as point user i need to pay points(it is money for points users) and must pay fee too and weeks users no need to pay fee for late deals?


I agree that doesn't sound fair, although 9000 points may actually be less in financial terms that cash payment.  I'm not a Points owner so can't give any more information on that.

quote:
4) What about extra holidays? need i need to pay any fee for get it?Or just can pay money for week and go on.?

I think the rules are the same for Weeks and Points.  Pay for the week, no week or points deposit required

quote:
5)If i want to get several weeks on same resort in same time....need ipay exchange fee for each week? And if i get two or three weeks on same resort and same time in Instant Exchange reservations  for 9000 points  or less.....i still need to pay two or three exchanges fees??

It will be extremely difficult to get many weeks at the same resort at the same time, but again I can't answer the Points specific part of the question.

quote:
6)Need i pay money for converting my week to points.....I have points week...so every year if i willnt do anything i will get points to my account(my home resort told me)...but need i pay something to RCI for that?

Yes there are fees involved in converting Weeks to Points, and they can be very high.

quote:
7)How easy to get several weeks in one resort? Or it can be the
problem?(for us to travel less than 2 week are not profitable because we are living in Russia so air tickets to most places are biggest part of money)


I have often obtained 2 consecutive weeks at resorts, although it may be necessary to change apartment at the end of the first week.  That said, I have always managed to stay in the same unit for both weeks.  Contact the resort in advance with a request to stay in the same one.  It is also helpful to them as there is one less unit to strip and deep clean.

quote:
8)I heard that with points system i have more resorts to choose than
weeks owners....is it truth?

Not that I'm aware of.

quote:
9) Heard that exchange in points system much cheaper than in week
system in RCI.....lesser than 100$(50 or 60?)

Can't answer that one.

quote:
10) Is it truth that not all resorts i can get for xchange......some
resorts will tell "NO" without reasoned answer.(i heard that Luxury
resorts...Hilton,Marriot,Sheraton...practice it)

That shouldn't be true on the Points system as the exchange cost is purely based on a number of points.  It is true on the Weeks system.

Quote11) Why i searching resorts in Asia on RCI.com and found that they are offer hotels rooms(for two person) without kitchen...is it normal


That may be down to limited availability of timeshare in the area and RCI attempting to find an alternative to satisfy demand.
Title: Questions about RCI resorts and exchanges
Post by: Simoncc on January 12, 2009, 08:47:18
Alzaus,

I agree with most of Keith's responses but will add a bit of extra detail as an RCI Points member;

Q3. The 9000 Points cost for a short notice exchange is a feature of the US Points system - in Europe we merely get a reduction in the usual Points cost. Check which system you are a member of.

Q5. I've managed to get 2 weeks at the same resort several times through the RCI Points system - even during school holidays. So far, I've not had to change units after the first week. One advantage of the Points system is that you only have to pay one exchange fee for booking more than 1 week.

Q6. Once you are a member of the Points system you have to pay the annual membership fee to RCI and if you do not make an exchange or use Points Partners during the year then they charge you an amount equivalent to an exchange fee - I certainly don't agree with that!

Q8. There are some resorts which joined RCI after the Points system started that are only available to Points members - Disney, which joined RCI in January 2009 appears to be one of these. Most however have both Weeks and Points availability. I'm not sure if there are any resorts that aren't available to Points members.

Q9. Yes the exchange fee is lower for Points members. I gave the details in another post on this site but can't remember what the figures were!

Q10 - Keith is correct but be aware that Marriott and some Sheraton resorts are not available through RCI in any circumstances.
Title: Questions about RCI resorts and exchanges
Post by: alzaus08 on January 12, 2009, 16:50:25
Great thatx for answer....now most things i understand clearly.

But some things still not....sorry :(

About
Q3: Weeks owners can buy weeks for low cost--Its call "Late deals" (in 45 day period or less)...they can buy it for money.
What about Points members...they are also can get same low cost weeks(in 45 day period or less)but not for money ...thy can buy it only for points--6500-9000 points....but AS I HEARD POINTS MEMBERS MUST PAY ECHANGE FEE TOO for such low cost exchange...BUT WEEKS OWNERS NO NEED TO PAY FEE...just price for week(from 130$)
If itis truth...its unfair!

Q5..So you had experience fo exchange more than one week.....Keith told that it is extremely hard to get two or more weeks in one place in one time....what about you...was is hard?

Q9...Donts you know where i can see the prices to changes for Points weeks owners?

Q11...I tryed to check most asian resorts in Extra Holidays and found only hotel units ....does it mean that if i need apartments with bedrooms and kitchen i need only get weeks for normal points price or not in red or white season?


Thank you again for help!

Alex
Title: Questions about RCI resorts and exchanges
Post by: Keitht on January 13, 2009, 16:48:30
quote:
Originally posted by alzaus08

Q5..So you had experience fo exchange more than one week.....Keith told that it is extremely hard to get two or more weeks in one place in one time....what about you...was is hard?





Alex, in your question you said "many weeks together" which I took to mean more than 2.  2 weeks at the same resort isn't generally that difficult to get.  The problem with RCI, for example, is that you can't put in one request for 2 consecutive weeks.  You have to put in seperate searches and hope they are both successful.
Title: Questions about RCI resorts and exchanges
Post by: charlie9321 on March 27, 2009, 16:13:44
Hello members.
After being an RCI Weeks member for some years - and being too frustrated with the service.
I am a Sheraton resort member 2B, floating weeks but that's no use as RCI Weeks system seems to make to distinction here. I can assure you that the Points system is much better once you own a quality resort.
I would very much like to switch from my current Weeks scheme to Points but I have no idea how to do it and what's involved. Can you please help me? Is there a policy for it available or a formal request to be lodged with someone? I know that my resort has much better buying power in the Points scheme than in the Weeks and I would like to make the switch if possible. Thanks very much for helping.
Title: Questions about RCI resorts and exchanges
Post by: Keitht on March 27, 2009, 16:33:09
quote:
Originally posted by charlie9321

I can assure you that the Points system is much better once you own a quality resort.




The Points system works well for some people and poorly for others.  Whether Weeks or Points is the better option depends entirely on the circumstances of the individual.  
For example searches on the Weeks system can be placed up to 2 years in advance, on Points the limit can be as little as 10 months in advance.  With Weeks you are restricted to a basis week for week exchange i.e. one in - one out.  With Points a high value resort may enable an exchange for more than one week at a lower value resort or exchanging out of high season.
There are many other factors too, but this just indicates that it's not a one size fits all solution.
Title: Questions about RCI resorts and exchanges
Post by: charlie9321 on March 27, 2009, 16:44:25
Thanks, point taken. Our resort was not a member of the Points scheme when we joined but the exchanges we made - 3 in 8 years were all sub-standard compared to what we deposited. I try to plan holidays ie. deposit/exchange 12 months in advance, so the benefit of the Weeks system is of little use for us.