daveandmaureen Can't allow cheets, I am going to do a doggy and say nope, as far as the garden the weeds are growing quite handsomely, and judging by the variation, I think I'll write 30 or 40 pages on them. Do have a good one for you! have a look at the peaches (white flesh) the description of Saturn/ Donut is rather good, and I think there are certain similarities with doggy if you look at the picture. Hope you are well an "Thriving" FRED